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Prof_Renato 26th Sep 2014

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Squad Missions List:
================

- Corpus Defense (long run)
- Corpus Interception
- Corpus Invasion (Corpus side)
- Corpus Mobile Defense
- Corpus Rescue
- Corpus Spy
- Corpus Survival (long run)

- Grineer Defense (long run)
- Grineer Hijack
- Grineer Interception
- Grineer Invasion (Grineer side)
- Grineer Mobile Defense
- Grineer Rescue
- Grineer Spy
- Grineer Survival (long run)

- Infested Defense (long run)
- Infested Hive
- Infested Mobile Defense
- Infested Rescue
- Infested Survival (long run)

- Nightmare Mode Assassination
- Nightmare Mode Defense
- Nightmare Mode Exterminate
- Nightmare Mode Mobile Defense
- Nightmare Mode Rescue
- Nightmare Mode Sabotage
- Nightmare Mode Spy
- Nightmare Mode Survival

- OV T Defense
- OV T Interception
- OV T Mobile Defense
- OV T Survival

- OD Assassinate
- OD Defense
- OD Survival



Solo Missions List:
===============

- Corpus Assassination
- Corpus Capture
- Corpus Deception
- Corpus Defense (short run)
- Corpus Exterminate
- Corpus Sabotage
- Corpus Survival (short run)

- Grineer Assassination
- Grineer Capture
- Grineer Deception
- Grineer Defense (short run)
- Grineer Exterminate
- Grineer Sabotage
- Grineer Survival (short run)

- Infested Capture
- Infested Defense (short run)
- Infested Exterminate
- Infested Survival (short run)

- Boss Killing Planet Missions

- Nightmare Mode Capture
- Nightmare Mode Deception

- OV T Capture
- OV T Exterminate

- OD Capture
- OD Exterminate



MISSIONS NOT CLASSIFIED (for builds):
================================

- Alerts
- Conclave
- Escape
- Excavation
- Phorid Assassination
- Solar Rail
- Stalker
- (what missions are missing here, please?)



 
 
Project Presentation:
=================

I'm trying to start a project about the best builds we can use for each game mission possible.

This is not a NEW PLAYERs sepecyfic project! We will try to find the BEST Build and Squad Composition for each game situation, even if it is not a new players best solution. Its something new players should aim for, beside we will make an alternative plan, at lest for players that cant use the required number of FORMAs for each build.

The Clan leaders gave green light for the project, so I need to make a list of all the mission types that the game has, for us to plan the first builds to discuss.

Please write the mission types (or game situations) that you think that are not on the list, and the ones that are on the list but you think that make no sense to be.

Please dont give opinion about squad composition or best builds in this thread! There will be plenty of specific threads for that! (but of corse you can say what you want)

This is a project for us all, so please give your opinion and contribution!

I will update the list every day with our work!
 
 
Good work to all,
Thank you Space Sharks Inc. for this oportunity,
Prof_Renato
 
 
Last Edit: 6th Oct 2014 by Prof_Renato
SSI_Azrael 26th Sep 2014

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Well nice idea, this could help new players. I would say just take Loki with max range Radial Disarm and you allways have "infested" missions

For T Defense, ODD, Defense: Frost (Snowglobe), Vauban (Vortex, Bastile), Nova (Positive Molecular Prime), Nekros (Desecrate).
For infested Defense just switch Frost with a damage frame.

But you can also just take Loki with max range (overextended +90%,Stretch +45% and swindle loki helmet +15%) Radial Disarm and a Vauban, this way you don't have to fear Corpus or Grineer!

Btw Loki+Mag+Vauban is the best option against Corpus defense, Loki (RD), Vauban (Vortex), Mag (Shield Polarize)!




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SSI_FreeToPlatinum 26th Sep 2014

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Pretty cool that you are putting in an effort in doing all that.

My input on the Nightmare modes is that it can vary quite a lot and is fairly unpredictable. Maybe there isn't really a one size fits all solution for that.

Unless you want to include a build for each category of debuffs


Prof_Renato 26th Sep 2014

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SSI_EnterNewAlias I put it there having that exact opinion =:-) But I put it anyway, because I try to start with a brainstorm =:-)

And that's exactly my big doub: Should we include a huge number of Nightmare Squad compositions and builds, one for each Nightmare Mission Type, or it doesnt worth the huge effort? We leave it to the end? Or we dont even consider it?



Waiting for mre answers
Renato
Prof_Renato 30th Sep 2014

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[List and needed tasks updated]

Please answer the questions of the first post of this Thread!

Thank you!!!

SentiDracuta 30th Sep 2014

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Nyx works for pretty much anything with the right build. (I haven't seen a mission yet that I couldn't solo)
Here's my build:
http://goo.gl/ke4XUI
It's not friendly to new players but i've found it to pretty much be a master of all trades build. There is also potential to make it better with nyx prime and some forma by maxing redirection and vitalty.

Another very effective build i've made but is even less friendly to new players is my loki prime build:
http://goo.gl/oBZ4gl
With a crazy 15 points left to work with, redirection could easily be maxed and there is no need for any forma whatsoever. Due to virtually unlimited invisibility and a spammable radial disarm this build works amazingly on almost everything with the exception of infested defense. Only downside is a lot of rare mods and loki prime is difficult to obtain.

So there's my main builds, they're late game but super effective. Throw in a multi forma boltor prime or some other weapon and you're basically invincible on everything except T4D and T4S.
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Also i must point out that there is no such thing as Corpus Conclave, Corpus Hijack, Grineer Conclave, Grineer Escape. Conclave missions are pvp, Hijack is a special grineer mission on ceres, and Escape is a special mission you get when you are defeated by the Zanuka Hunter.

Also infested missions should probably be included. Here's a list of them:
Infested Hive
Infested Mobile Defense
Infested Defense
Infested Survival
Infested Exterminate
Infested Capture
Infested Rescue
Phorid Assassination
Legend 30th Sep 2014

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Environmental hazards - Are apart of the hive mission since popping a 'pimple' causes various this to occur - gas pimple would cause clouds of gasses to spawn and likewise for each subsequent pimple type

Excavation was that cryotic front event, where you power up a generator thing with capsule things to dig for prizes to get stuff

Hive was the Breeding grounds event, where you pop pimples in infested maps

Pickups... i dont even?

Solar rails in when a dark sector is under attack so basically PVE/P

tilesets are pre-generated randomised maps for each mission so like the grineer nodes would only have grineer tilesets (massive ships and crap) - corpus would have a corpus based map only (space ships and grey stuff and ice and crap)

ya dig. pm me if you need more advice

EDIT:
- Alerts - randomised and usually of a very low level so it changes
- Boss Killing Planet Missions - Depends on the boss / maybe elemental combo used for each type? would be more applicable?
- Conclave - PVP so bring your best gear
- Invasion - Its the Grineer vs Corpus battle where you side one for 5 runs and get their loot they offer
- Nightmare Mode - Once a planet is fully unlocked nightmares come on the planet which are marked by skulls - automatically no shields and 2 out of like 10~ varying effects such as low gravity and crap like that
- PvP - Duh

EDITED EDIT:
you spelt analyse wrong - @gg i cant edit the post? so yeah


Round and round the wheel of life goes... where it stops nobody knows... but theres one thing i do know... and it's that i'll be happy where ever i go...

Last Edit: 30th Sep 2014 by Legend
Mrazable 30th Sep 2014

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QuoteNyx works for pretty much anything with the right build. (I haven't seen a mission yet that I couldn't solo)
Here's my build:
http://goo.gl/ke4XUI
It's not friendly to new players but i've found it to pretty much be a master of all trades build. There is also potential to make it better with nyx prime and some forma by maxing redirection and vitalty.

...

Love my nyx ( cant get nyx prime yet) but ur build isnt any good imo
Build u should aim for as nyx is http://goo.gl/Jt9wAm . I know its for prime warframe but still. Atm runing this build on nyx http://goo.gl/nr2GFd . U dont need long chaos. Coz long chaos wont let u cast it more often and its a problem. Better recast it then w8 till ur last chaos ends. With this build did 70 mins t4 surv without any probs, with prime one i think u willl do even better...
Prof_Renato 1st Oct 2014

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Thank you all!

All your info is now updated in the first post of the thread.

LegendsCreed, I sent you a lot of your by private message

Thank you all,
Renato.
SentiDracuta 1st Oct 2014

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I understand what you mean by having power duration being to long so I may just swap out constitution for something else, as for the rest of your build is just preference as I prefer to maximise efficiency instead of flow + quick thinking. I don't really need the survivability because for long survivals I'll just bring my Loki.
SSI_FreeToPlatinum 1st Oct 2014

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SentiDracuta I'm glad you mentioned Loki on survivals. I use Loki quite a lot on void missions.
The problem I have with Loki for long survival wave 45+ is a stray bullet can take you out no matter how careful you are , and if you pal is near by bullets are sure to fly regardless of your invisibility. 

That 1 second out of invisibility can easily get you killed. Because of reduced killing speeds at higher waves, enemies are swarming everywhere + the Eximus drain stuff that prevents high reliance on spamming cheap skills.  The tip I was given on this issue is just to avoid them but again that becomes quite unrealistic on higher waves. 


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That's where maxed efficiency comes in as it lets you spam radial disarm especially with loki prime due to his hude energy pool, you can't be hit by stray bullets if there aren't any.
As for the eximus' I've never had any issues with energy drain except on ODD but who would take a loki to ODD anyways.
Last Edit: 1st Oct 2014 by SentiDracuta
Legend 2nd Oct 2014

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oh god was that an effort to write XD but sent


Round and round the wheel of life goes... where it stops nobody knows... but theres one thing i do know... and it's that i'll be happy where ever i go...

Prof_Renato 2nd Oct 2014

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[Inicial Post updated with more INFO]
 
 
TASKS TO BE DONE:

==============

--== A ==-- Missions that are not yet in a category

We need to decide if this missions go to the main list of the first post. Answer options:
a) we can make a build for each of them (and squad composition)
b) it is a specific mission that needs to be separated in other missions by type (specify)
c) it doesnt make sense to make a build for it
d) other (specify)

- Alerts
- Boss Killing Planet Missions
- Conclave
- Invasion
- Nightmare Mode
- PvP


--== B ==-- Missions that I dont understand

This missions appear in the Wiki has missions, but I dont quite understand them, so I, please, need you to explain each of them, and try to give an opinion if it can go for the mission types list to have a Squad Composition and Builds.
Answer options:
a) Explanation and we should make a squad composition and builds for it
b) Explanation and we cant make a squad composition and builds for it
c) Other answer (specify)

- Environmental Hazards
- Excavation
- Hive
- Pickups
- Solar Rail
- Tile Sets


--== C ==-- Infested Missions

- What Infested Missions are missing in the Main Missions List (of the first post) please???


--== D ==-- Analyse actual Main list

Analyse the Main List of the first post and tell:
- What missions should not be there because they cant be done anymore or because of other reason
- What missions or Game Situations are missing, and we should decide a Squad composition and builds for them.

 

 
 
Thank you all for your private messages with information!

Thank you all that are making this project possibel.

I BEG you, please, for do not discuss builds or squad composition in this specyfic thread, there will be plenty of threads for that, this on is to discuss Mission Types for us to make Squad Composition and Builds, please

Thank you all,
Nice to be in this Clan,
Prof_Renato
 
 

Last Edit: 2nd Oct 2014 by Prof_Renato
Prof_Renato 2nd Oct 2014

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LegendsCreed answer to a huge mail with work:
======================================

### Environmental hazards - Makes no sense to define Squad Composition and Builds for it, right?

LegendsCreed ANSWER: True , however large amounts of health maybe be applicable in some cases since they can release poison gas but ultimately it shouldnt make sense to define a squad thing for it


### Excavation - Is it active yet? Or we can no longer make Excavation Missions? Makes no sense to define Squad Composition and Builds for it, right?

LegendsCreed ANSWER: Its not currently available as a mission but will be in the future - its basically modded out very very similar to survivals except a nekros isnt that necessarily needed - since its not going off life supports if you get what i mean


### Hive - Is it still active??? Makes sense to define Squad Composition and Builds for it?

LegendsCreed ANSWER: Hive is still active, but generally a fast frame with alot of health is the best way so not necessarily a build/composition is needed for it if you get what i mean since its just walk in pop pimples walk out - not really killing things


### Pickups - Doesnt exist, right?

LegendsCreed ANSWER: i dont even know what they could be honestly - unless it means things like mobile defences and crap? but that doesnt really count as a mission type


### Solar rails - We take it out of the list since PvP Squad and Builds applys* 100% do this missions?

LegendsCreed ANSWER: Basically - the only build you would recommend for solar rails is a strong frame and poison weapons XD its more personal preference like PvP is suppose to be hence no actual squad/builds should apply its more what weapons you like


### Tilesets - Are not missions right? So makes no sense to define Squad Composition and Builds for it, right?

LegendsCreed ANSWER: nah they're just randomly generated maps like a tile = piece of flooring usually set = a bunch of them in the same theme

tileset = pieces of a map with a theme (nothing but looks)


### Alerts - Makes no sense to define Squad Composition and Builds for it, right?

LegendsCreed ANSWER: Nope they dont stick to one faction and they usually go pretty quick so anything will do


### Boss Killing Planet Missions - Makes sense to make a Boss List and define Squad Composition and Builds for each of them, since they are crucial for Material adn Blueprints farm???

LegendsCreed ANSWER: I wouldnt say boss list, more like what faction they're apart of and the appropriate elemental combom like Vor - Grinneer (look at his weakeness' and say bring corrosive damage or high puncture weapons - but generally boss' are easily 1v1'd you know, and random people will carry others in squads so just to condense the forum down its not 100% necessary


### Conclave - Makes sense to define Squad Composition and Builds for it, right?

LegendsCreed ANSWER: Conclave is only 2v2 at the most - its more what the player likes to use since every frame is different and so are the weaponry


### Invasion - So we can set 2 diferent missions here (Corpus side and Grineer side) and define 2 diferent Squad Compositions and Builds???

LegendsCreed ANSWER: Don't know about composition since they vary in levels (usually really easy) but build wise would be just simple

Grineer - Radiation (Fire/Electric)/Viral(ice/electric)
Corpus - Magnetic (electric/ice)/Toxic(poison)


### Nightmare Mode - Since the missions vary a lot, makes sense to list all the Nightmare Missions Types and define Squad Composition and Builds for each of them???

LegendsCreed ANSWER: Just anything with alot of health and invisibility - Ashe/Zephyr/Loki all those frames, weapons not so much since its recommended that one does deception nightmares since they're super quick and dont require one to kill everything

Last Edit: 2nd Oct 2014 by Prof_Renato
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Round and round the wheel of life goes... where it stops nobody knows... but theres one thing i do know... and it's that i'll be happy where ever i go...

Prof_Renato 3rd Oct 2014

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Please answer and say if we should put each of this missions (one by one please) in Solo Missions or Squad Missions:

- Corpus Assassination
- Corpus Capture
- Corpus Deception
- Corpus Interception
- Corpus Rescue
- Corpus Sabotage
- Corpus Spy

- Grineer Assassination
- Grineer Capture
- Grineer Deception
- Grineer Hijack
- Grineer Interception
- Grineer Rescue
- Grineer Sabotage
- Grineer Spy

- Infested Capture
- Infested Defense
- Infested Exterminate
- Infested Hive
- Infested Mobile Defense
- Infested Rescue
- Infested Survival
- Phorid Assassination (stays here or in the Boss Killing Group?)
- What Infested Missions miss here please??? PLEASE!!!

- OV T Capture
- OV T Exterminate

- OD Capture
- OD Exterminate

- Boss Killing Planet Missions

- Escape

- Hive (Infested)

- Invasion Grineer side
- Invasion Corpus side

- Nightmare Mode Missions



Squad Missions List:
================

- Corpus Defense
- Corpus Mobile Defense
- Corpus Survival

- Grineer Defense
- Grineer Mobile Defense
- Grineer Survival

- OV T Defense
- OV T Mobile Defense
- OV T Survival

- OD Assassinate
- OD Defense
- OD Survival



Solo Missions List:
===============

- Corpus Exterminate

- Grineer Exterminate



MISSIONS NOT CLASSIFIED (for builds):
================================

- Alerts
- Excavation
- Solar Rail
- Conclave
- (what missions are missing here, please?)



THANK YOU ALL!
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- Corpus Assassination - solo is easiest if a high level
- Corpus Capture - solo can be done - alot quicker but usually witha squad for fun
- Corpus Deception - soloable (no killing really needed)
- Corpus Interception - team of 4 is recommended
- Corpus Rescue - team of 4 is recommended
- Corpus Sabotage - can be solo'd pretty easily but -team of 4 is recommended
- Corpus Spy - easily solo'd but takes more time so -team of 4 is recommended

- Grineer Assassination - solo is always easier
- Grineer Capture - same as above
- Grineer Deception- same as above
- Grineer Hijack- same as above
- Grineer Interception- same as above
- Grineer Rescue- same as above
- Grineer Sabotage- same as above
- Grineer Spy- same as above

- Infested Capture- same as above
- Infested Defense- same as above (team is probally better though)
- Infested Exterminate -solo
- Infested Hive -solo/good team
- Infested Mobile Defense - good team (nice exp so probally go with a team)
- Infested Rescue -team
- Infested Survival - team if long runs
- Phorid Assassination - its technically a boss run ;p can be solo'd but recommended high shield/health since the 'screech thing' can 1 shot you XD
-None missing from memory

all OV's are soloable but its best to share the loot around so a team would be recommended
- OV T Capture - Orokin void? - solo'd until about t3/t4 probally get with a team
- OV T Exterminate - same as above

usually associated with vault runs the two below
- OD Capture - solo
- OD Exterminate - team/solo (easy)

- Boss Killing Planet Missions - the nodes each boss is on is found on wiki's so no need to replicate it

- Escape - its a solo mission (allbymyself.jpg)

- Hive (Infested) - (hive are always infested - team)

- Invasion Grineer side -(team - alot quicker that way)
- Invasion Corpus side - (team - - same as above)

- Nightmare Mode Missions (i only run deceptions - since its solo'able and quicker than the other nodes without a team mate


Round and round the wheel of life goes... where it stops nobody knows... but theres one thing i do know... and it's that i'll be happy where ever i go...

Prof_Renato 4th Oct 2014

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Superb LegendsCreed!!!


Please, ALL CLAN MEMBERS, look at the following lists and tell:
- If you agree with everything please make a post saying just that.
- Or write what do you not agree, please.


Squad Missions List:
================

- Corpus Defense (long run)
- Corpus Interception
- Corpus Invasion (Corpus side)
- Corpus Mobile Defense
- Corpus Rescue
- Corpus Spy
- Corpus Survival (long run)

- Grineer Defense (long run)
- Grineer Interception
- Grineer Invasion (Grineer side)
- Grineer Mobile Defense
- Grineer Rescue
- Grineer Spy
- Grineer Survival (long run)

- Infested Defense (long run)
- Infested Hive
- Infested Mobile Defense
- Infested Rescue
- Infested Survival (long run)

- Hive

- OV T Defense
- OV T Interception
- OV T Mobile Defense
- OV T Survival

- OD Assassinate
- OD Defense
- OD Survival



Solo Missions List:
===============

- Corpus Assassination
- Corpus Capture
- Corpus Deception
- Corpus Defense (short run)
- Corpus Exterminate
- Corpus Sabotage
- Corpus Survival (short run)

- Grineer Assassination
- Grineer Capture
- Grineer Deception
- Grineer Defense (short run)
- Grineer Exterminate
- Grineer Sabotage
- Grineer Survival (short run)

- Infested Capture
- Infested Defense (short run)
- Infested Exterminate
- Infested Survival (short run)

- Boss Killing Planet Missions

- Nightmare Mode Deception

- OV T Capture
- OV T Exterminate

- OD Capture
- OD Exterminate





Need Classification Missions List:
==========================
(please answer and say if we should put each of them (one by one please) in Solo Missions or Squad Missions)

- Grineer Hijack

- Escape (waiting clarification)

- What Infested Missions miss in all this lists??? PLEASE!!!

- Nightmare Mode Missions (need list of all Nightmare Mission Types PLEASE!)



THANK you all very much!
Good work!

Last Edit: 4th Oct 2014 by Prof_Renato
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