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Bring the Challenge to Warframe!
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VeronikaStripper 28th Feb 2015

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I took a few hours out of my time and wrote up this really nice Warframe forum post. I hope that you all will read it, and upvote it if you agree with it. If you have thoughts, please post on this thread and let your voice be heard. Thank you guys for your time.

https://forums.warframe.c ... ge-mode-to-warframe/


There are monsters out in the cosmos that can swallow entire stars. Inside these equations is a monster, anything that gets too close, will be pulled in.

Last Edit: 28th Feb 2015 by VeronikaStripper
Legend 1st Mar 2015

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jesus christ that was lengthy. I'll upvote to help you out there and i also really like the ideas :3 from what im reading its more like a firefight type thing? or a swat type mission? where the group actually has to stick together and move swiftly to kill everything and get it all done sorta like the good ol' days when i use to play co-op campaign in halo



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SantaElektron 1st Mar 2015

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WOW this is excellently written and I agree with a majority of what you said, but I just have 2 questions:

  • Do you think some of your challenges can be combined and synergize with one another, or would that be overkill?
  • I understand this is for veteran players and those who enjoy challenges, but it might alienate majority of the players. Do you think a special reward or something worth their trouble might fix that and attract more players to try them?



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VeronikaStripper 1st Mar 2015

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I would think that all of the recorded information can be used for different leaderboards. Timed, kills, abilities used. Each run would rank differently on each leaderboard listing.

With all the weapons balanced for PVP, they are going to only do a certain amount of damage. The mods are going to be rank 1. Most new players or mid range players will do just as well as the top end players.

As far as the rewards, we will leave that to sheldon to fuck it up.


There are monsters out in the cosmos that can swallow entire stars. Inside these equations is a monster, anything that gets too close, will be pulled in.

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VeronikaStripper 1st Mar 2015

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And replying to creed, I would think it would be a tight group, like a swat team, but im sure the quick finesse groups could get it done also.


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QuoteAnd replying to creed, I would think it would be a tight group, like a swat team, but im sure the quick finesse groups could get it done also.

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(you can quote you know )

hopefully this gets onto the idea of the week (prime time thing) keep it updated veronika! i want to see this ingame!

@Light, honestly we cant always just cater to the new players if we keep doing so the vets are left behind to rot and do nothing



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Doforcash 1st Mar 2015

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yeh i guess imma be the first guy who said this

WHY DO THE LETTER HAVE TO BE BLACK T^T


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SSI_DaddySlimer 1st Mar 2015

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Quote...

@Light, honestly we cant always just cater to the new players if we keep doing so the vets are left behind to rot and do nothing
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This is the huge problem that adding a new game type won't resolve. There needs to be content that isn't open to all. The taxi system allows anyone to play with three strong players and gain rewards outside of the run of play.  the game should be a progression but it's full of shortcuts to a non-existent endgame. 

In other MMOs you will see, when you start, some huge warrior walking along with all the bling and good stuff. You want to be like him, you want to get the equipment that allows it and the skill/knowledge that was used to obtain it. Instead we have a system where everyone can have everything and we don't have superstars to look upto. Everyone feels entitled to everything. MR is a mockery since ODD(old),viver/stephano/draco. All players are the same shade of grey.

Raids may or may not resolve this

OT: I upvoted your piece VS as I thought it was well written, comprehensive and intelligent. I'm not sure overall it will accomplish anything in satisfying old players or players who use the words 'grind' and 'farm' too much. (we never had those words in the old days of truely repetitive gaming (pacman/space invaders/mario/pong/donkey kong etc))


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VeronikaStripper 1st Mar 2015

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It's not getting very many upvotes. I think my issue is that I don't make my topics controversial enough for conversation, and it is sort of daunting to those with attention deficit disorer, they just don't read it. If you all feel so inclined, a bump by commenting may help the situation as well. If you don't feel like doing that, perfectly fine.

Thank you guys for your support in this.


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SantaElektron 1st Mar 2015

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Sure I'll upvote and comment, but you might want to add a TL;DR section so it is more digestible for readers. That might attract more people to read it.



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VeronikaStripper 1st Mar 2015

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haha, true.. I added a TLDR in bold at the top and bottom of the article. Should get the point across.


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SSI_DaddySlimer 1st Mar 2015

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I think it is that well done that at least a couple of DE will read it fully, which I guess is the whole point.

Can I ask any clannies who can, upvote this so it gets the visibility it deserves.


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IxaoEclipse 1st Mar 2015

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I know it's a bit off topic, but your layout reminded me a lot of this comic, specifically panel 11: http://existentialcomics. ... com/comic/28

On a more serious note, I think your point is quite good. However, I think the "Rank 1 Only" role's practicality differs wildly between mods. While it would be good for supplemental abilities like Quick Thinking and your proposed Elemental mechanic, I don't know if it be worth it with most of the bread and butter mods, like Vitality/Redirection/Steel Fiber, the base damage mods, or any mod that is incredibly vital but needs to be at rank 10. I guess this could be fixed by having mods work more like a halfway ranked mod in PvP. This would make mods more useful, but keep them in check-you wouldn't be able to get +100% multishot, but you'd still have it. Likewise, it would allow everyone to deal the same amount of damage since there would be no leveling required.


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VeronikaStripper 2nd Mar 2015

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Ixao: The thing is, the mode is supposed to be tailor made for having base health, or slightly elevated by having only 1 rank. You have to make trade-offs Is that extra 40% health, or shield worth it? or should I use a streamline and a stretch and just play more tactical and defensive?

The game mode will be planned around baseline health. So if you wanted to ditch the health mods for something else, it wouldn't be giving up too much, because the damage output from enemies will be the same, their levels will not fluctuate. There is a lot of leeway in the builds of each warframe, no longer requiring STAPLE mods like vitality or redirection.

It's also easier for them to balance around baseline health, rather than balancing enemy damage based upon a large range of health possibilities.

I hope this explained my intent with it? I do appreciate your feedback, I think i may add it to the thread.


There are monsters out in the cosmos that can swallow entire stars. Inside these equations is a monster, anything that gets too close, will be pulled in.

Legend 2nd Mar 2015

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bumped btw


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IxaoEclipse 2nd Mar 2015

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I understand the intent, but you have to remember that even with weaker weapons, base hp isnt that much on several frames. I think the most base HP any frame has is 125? That, combined with shields (which effectively doubles it), gives a range of 150-250 HP, not considering armor. Weapons like the Opticor and Ogris would be really overpowered, as would the sniper rifles and the already popular Boltor/Paris Primes. I just think that base HP wouldn't be enough.


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MadHatHacker (Banned) 8th Mar 2015

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Finally got around to reading all this, and I have to say I love the concept. Especially the fact that the playing field is essentially leveled in terms of equipment, meaning that player skill is what will make or break your mission.

I never thought I'd see a well-written, engaging game concept from someone with the name "VeronikaStripper", but hey!


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