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Discussion on Clan Chat & Rules
Forum » Clan Business » General Discussion
Split 27th Jul 2015

Joined: 11th Feb 2013
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It's come to my attention that over the last few months that I've been in SSI that the rules may be written too broadly. However, this isn't a huge problem, it's just a way that we could improve the fuzzy lines of our rules. There are no lines defined, although I would also say that this may not be necessary.
 
Over the past few months that I've been very active on both WF (I've been here for 2 years, but wasn't active until the past year) and clan chat I've noticed that we've never really had any problems with any of our members not following the rules.
The only people I've seen who receive strikes/kicks are people who very blatantly break the clan rules. (Specifically people who put down others, or write 20 lines of two letter posts. These people are almost immediately kicked anyways; which I agree was the proper line of action since they don't need 3 strikes to show how inconsiderate they are of other members.)
At the same time, I've seen warnings given for two words, simply breaking the silence of clan chat (I do this all the time) and two people having a normal conversation in clan chat.

Is our clan chat meant to be a place for sharks to enjoy talking to each other, regardless of subject?
Or is it meant to be solely for the purpose of sharks to have a recruiting/trading chat within the clan?

How strictly are we enforcing our rules?
If we're going to enforce them strictly, the current rules are too broad and the rules can be perceived differently by different people.
There is no "fine line" for rules 2 & 3.
What is considered spam?
Personally, I think swearing should be clearly defined as not directed towards one another. If we truly want to protect the younger members of the clan from the vulgarities of profane language, I think we should just have swearing against the rules entirely since swearing is obviously not a necessity to communicate among one another.

Is this necessary? Not if our clan is meant to be lax and inviting to people to chat. If it is necessary, we should have a rule which says that posts in clan chat should be strictly warframe related.

Again, I'll add that this isn't a huge problem and is something I just thought I would put out there for a bit more clarification on the part of my fellow sharks. I don't want our clan chat to turn into region chat, where rules are almost non-existent; at the same time, I don't want our clan chat to be completely silent with only some reworded WTB/WTT/WTS/H/LF messages.

-Llieff
Last Edit: 27th Jul 2015 by Split
Shiditso 27th Jul 2015

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The clan chat is meant for Sharks to enjoy each others time and to talk, as they see fit. However, at the same time, it becomes increasingly difficult to ask for help when others are having off-topic conversations and hog the screen time. As for breaking the rules, it is pretty much up to the officers of the clan to decide when a rule has been broken. Personally, I will give some members "soft" warnings before giving them a strike, such as excessive off-topic spamming.

There is a fine line between too strict and too lax when it comes to rules. I think the Warlords/Megladons have done a good job up to this point in picking the rules and it leaves us enough space as officers to moderate the clan chat as necessary. Like you, I have not had much problems with the clan chat, and I often have the language filter turned on so as to not even worry about it. however, as always, if there is an issue with a particular member, you are always welcome to PM any officer in game or on the forums and we will address is as soon as possible.

There will inevitably be times when the clan chat is slow/dead, and those are normally times when I tend to me a little more liberal with conversation topics (to encourage at least some type of talking). However, I try to limit such topics during peak play, so as to allow others the ability to talk and ask for help.
Zicos 27th Jul 2015

Joined: 12th Apr 2014
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As someone who tend to talk a lot when given the chance, I am pretty generous in this kind of chat.
Another officer told us to move it to another chat, which is completely fine when we been hogging the chat for quite some time.
Personally I would let it slide usually unless the chat itself gets completely out of control in terms of topic and the amount of people in the chat.

I believe the best course of action if someone find the clan chat being too overwhelming for people who needs help/recruiting for missions would be to tell them to stop and move into the dojo for the chat as dojo have a completely separate chat tab for it.
Last Edit: 27th Jul 2015 by Zicos
ayugamex 27th Jul 2015

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Hello Llieff Welcome to the forums.

QuoteIs this necessary? Not if our clan is meant to be lax and inviting to people to chat.

Chatter is always welcome in clanchat, that's what makes it so fun to hang out there.
It's at everyone's disgression discretion to use it how she or he sees fit. Rules are broad enough to outline proper conduct. Trolls, spammers, and 'unfriendly' subjects get gone rather quickly.

Quotea rule which says that posts in clan chat should be strictly warframe related.

No we shouldn't. If we started listing what's allowed an what not, we'd have to hotfix it bi-weekly, noone wants that, do we?

QuoteThe clan chat is meant for Sharks to enjoy each others time and to talk, as they see fit. However, at the same time, it becomes increasingly difficult to ask for help when others are having off-topic conversations and hog the screen time. As for breaking the rules, it is pretty much up to the officers of the clan to decide when a rule has been broken. Personally, I will give some members "soft" warnings before giving them a strike, such as excessive off-topic spamming.

I agree.



QuoteQuestion is, is there any way ayu can "help" him?

Last Edit: 28th Jul 2015 by ayugamex
Split 27th Jul 2015

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Thanks for the replies, I have a general idea of how these rules are being perceived now by a few members.
And thanks for the welcomes, I have been following the forums for the past year and registered two years ago, just didn't feel the need to make any posts.
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