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Help with game lag
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0sanity 5th Apr 2015

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Hi,
I am relatively new to Warframe and am enjoying it greatly.
I noticed that sometimes when I play, there is a lot of very bad lag.
This is usually due to the host having issues with their game.
I gave a few pointers in the chat, but decided that I could write a quick bit of help for the forum that other people could read.

Well, I started to write it, but ended up writing an 11 page document that was a bit long for the forum.
I wrote it in google docs to make it easier to edit
You can view the document here.
http://tinyurl.com/opwcuu ... l

If a part of it is confusing or incorrect, please leave a comment here and I will update the document.
Also if you have any other recommendations that I believe will actually help, I will add it to the document.
Please provide sources for any information if possible so I can learn about it and provide links in the document.

Thanks
~0Sanity
Last Edit: 5th Apr 2015 by 0sanity
HuIzMe 5th Apr 2015

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Thanks for the info, trying out some of em....
Shiditso 5th Apr 2015

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Thanks for the file; it looks quite long and in depth. I shall have to give some of the items a try in the future.
ALVIYAN 6th Apr 2015

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Thanks for giving guide & tips for the Sharks, I appreciate it. 


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Huntragon 6th Apr 2015

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I don't think warframe uses Nagle's algorithm, which is for TCP, while warframe uses UDP, so force disabling that algorithm shouldn't be needed.
If you want to check a little bit how their network works, a dev posted a thread a couple of months ago:
https://forums.warframe.com/in ... -congestion-control/
0sanity 6th Apr 2015

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QuoteI don't think warframe uses Nagle's algorithm, which is for TCP, while warframe uses UDP, so force disabling that algorithm shouldn't be needed.
If you want to check a little bit how their network works, a dev posted a thread a couple of months ago:
https://forums.warframe.com/in ... -congestion-control/
You are correct! I was trying to write this for games in general and not warframe specifically, I will add a note to the guide. Thanks!

SSI_GG (on PS4 - B6E6L6I) 6th Apr 2015

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Nice!

Ok so I have sticked the thread on top so all can see (I know the feels when you lag ) 10 FPS rock

And whoever knows a good solution to any lag problems (like you did there) post here so all can see/know.


Make it idiot proof and someone will make a better idiot.

SSI_DaddySlimer 6th Apr 2015

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All good, really hope it helps someone out there.

Regarding finding the router interface page, I'd usually suggest "windows key +r", type CMD, then ipconfig. The router address is typically the default gateway. (Username and password help here http://portforward.com/de ... _username_password/)

Additional issues you can mention are smart PVR boxes (Tivo/Sky) which pre-download popular programmes for instant viewing. Theres nothing smart about these boxes and download aggressively at peak times. Unplug when gaming.


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0sanity 6th Apr 2015

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QuoteAll good, really hope it helps someone out there.

Regarding finding the router interface page, I'd usually suggest "windows key +r", type CMD, then ipconfig.  The router address is typically the default gateway. (Username and password help here http://portforward.com/de ... _username_password/)

Additional issues you can mention are smart PVR boxes (Tivo/Sky) which pre-download popular programmes for instant viewing. Theres nothing smart about these boxes and download aggressively at peak times. Unplug when gaming.

Good Stuff I'll add it.
Thanks

SSI_DaddySlimer 6th Apr 2015

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I use something called Capsa from colasoft to analyse the local network, probably best to not mention it as it is not incredibly user-friendly. I've got 30+ internet enabled devices in my home so I need to know what content the kids are viewing and the bandwidth they are using.


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0sanity 6th Apr 2015

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QuoteI use something called Capsa from colasoft to analyse the local network, probably best to not mention it as it is not incredibly user-friendly. I've got 30+ internet enabled devices in my home so I need to know what content the kids are viewing and the bandwidth they are using.

Capsa is pretty nice. Setting QoS will help your game in a heavy network usage environment.
The nice thing about Capsa is it lets you quickly identify devices that are using way more then they should. Which indicates a possible virus or background application that may be downloading something without your knowledge.
The only downside is Capsa does not always work depending on how the network is setup and the router.
Huntragon 6th Apr 2015

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Is Capsa similar to wireshark? I used wireshark sometimes, but it's difficult to monitor the whole network because it list all packages, and it can easily get more than ten thousand packages, so it's hard to keep track of where they come from.
0sanity 6th Apr 2015

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QuoteIs Capsa similar to wireshark? I used wireshark sometimes, but it's difficult to monitor the whole network because it list all packages, and it can easily get more than ten thousand packages, so it's hard to keep track of where they come from.
Capsa is like wireshark but shows you nice looking charts to make the data more useful.

Turix 12th Jun 2015

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Few things to add:

1) Unpark your cores if necessary for PC lag problems: https://forums.warframe.c ... -cpu-core-unparking/

2) You should clarify in the connection speed area. ISPs always advertise in bits and consumer products generally measure in bytes, and often ISPs don't advertise upload speed which can be a real problem that is solvable with a higher tier package.

3) Should probably mention the basics of tracert as tracing the path to whatever you're connecting to and comparing it to Google should give you an idea of how far from optimal your ISP is interacting with other ISPs without a lot of technical know-how.
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