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Scamframe (A VIRULANT RANT)
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ThePresident777 16th Aug 2014

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In the beginning, there was the Acrid, a 440 DPS weapon that was the highest DPS weapon at the time.  DE let this anomaly run wild for months while people potatoed and 8-forma'd and boo$$$$$ted the fuck out of it.

Then, they violently ATM raped it down to lato neighborhood, as a hearty skull fucking thank you to all the dip shits that spent money on it.

Then, DE made more 400+ DPS weapons for dumb fucking assholes to spend money on.

Then, with melee 2.0, DE shit fucked all the best melee weapons, totally re-fucking the entire melee pecking order.  All the suckers that potatoed and 8-forma'd and boo$$$$ted their Galatine of Buffing got it shoved up their ass side ways in appreciation for giving DE money.

Then, DE made more high DPS weapons.

Then, DE crapped on launchers as a warm shitty thanks to all the morons that potatoed and 8-forma'd and boo$$$$ted launchers both primary and secondary.  DE appreciates the loot, nob gooblers. 

Oh, wait, lets be fair.  DE did buff sniper rifles at the same time it vomited on launcher users, not into 400+ DPS, that would trigger a bitch ass fuck nerf down, but some of them into a respectable 250+ territory.  DE buffed the vulkar, a formally lato grade weapon, to a higher level than Vectis, it's former master.  So, now all the Vectis bitches can feel like they got little pee pee syndrome and need a vulkar, potatoed and 8'forma'd and boo$$$ted of course.

Is the SCAM apparent yet?  Do we understand how DE is robbing us blind or can you not see the elephant shoved up your ass yet?

I don't want to hear any childish bullshit about OP and Beta.  Your stupidty is OP and your penis is in Beta but you don't make money.  Not from me you don't. 

WHO THE FUCK MADE THE WEAPONS "OP"?  Why do they keep releasing "OP" weapons if they are "unbalanced"?  FFS DPS IS HIGH SCHOOL LEVEL MATH.  Any ass sucking idiot could set a ceiling to DPS and enemy HP and .......... anything in the fucking game and make sure that it never gets "unbalanced".  What kind of dumb fuck man children do they hire at DE that they can't do high school math but get to be lead-asshole-in-charge-of-stuffing-shit-down-customer's-throats?????????????????  Are they high on Brawndo over there or something???

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Doforcash 16th Aug 2014

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1st of all: Your language kinda burn my eye (propally some other people looking for a good game time too...)

2nd: all of those "Scamming" and "S**T f**k all the cool thing", each and every one of those are once a theart, from other Random Tenno that said "DE this thing is too OP, plz nerf"
so if you wanna blaming the root of evil, you can always blame those Tenno who started it (but frankly, not much people have anything against these change, in fact they like it).

*the following reason is extremely long and full of typos, please proceed further with caution*
3rd: "Omg, DE are nerfing everything we ever care about", "holy F**k we're in the SCAM apartment, everyone hide u wallet", " DE are scamming us and try to steal our money".

whoa slow down there bro, DE are people, just like you and i, and people make mistake. And the only way to fix a OP weapon situation, is to nerf the hell out of it (good thing they also gave a buff to other gun too, err ?).
oh yeh sure, DE try to scam us ? I guess they make the market for all F2P player have a chance to make bonus platinum, or gave everyone (and i mean everyone) access to new map imminently after it been release, or make potatoes and Forma (Sandvich Prime) obtainable. And the biggest crime of all...is they gave us FREE HAT. "Is the SCAM apparent yet?" Why yes, it's all become clear now, good sir.
#sacarm

DE's stealing our money ? How? i miyself is a F2P person, and i literally got ANYTHING i want just by play this game for a long time. Hell, i got 1150 platinum just by trading (50 of those are platinum they give us at the beginning). and not to mention the number of free platinum i got from daily reward.
i swear, i use those platinum for making slot in inventory, buying badass amor, some color AND THAT'S IT. i got 300 left and had no idea what to use now.

really bro, i think you're abit too hush in the game.
do u need a friendly cheer up :3 ?


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SSI_DaddySlimer 16th Aug 2014

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Amen Brother Dofor.


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ThePresident777 16th Aug 2014

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My language is supposed to burn your bacon clogged eyes so you can see.

I already explained all this but lets go over it again.

So, if there is a thread telling DE to swim in the shark pool, they'll do it? DE created all those weapons. DE decided that there would be a 350+ DPS spread between the weapons. They decided to use weapon tiers. They decided to make 400+ DPS weapons, nerf them, then make more 400+ DPS weapons. That is a crucial point there. It's not a mistake anymore when they nerf the 440 DPS weapons then introduce more 400+ weapons. Now, it's premeditated. It's a scam.

Acrid could have been a mistake. But, why wasn't it corrected? Was there any reason to nerf acrid into shitsville? How about Galatine? Was there any reason to take Galatine from top tier to average after what DE should have learned from Acrid? No, there was no reason at all to shit on everyone's potatoe+forma+boo$$$ter money. They could have reduced those weapons but left in the top tier.

They could have avoided all this nerf buff balance bullshit from the start, with just high school math. This situation has gone on more than a year already. A high school student would have fixed this by now. And, you imply DE is dumber than a high school kid when you say these are just mistakes.

Incidentally, all those nerf threads are from people who want a slower Dark Souls type game. A game can be faster or slower no matter what the DPS is because that is measured by Time To Kill a target, TTK, which is Enemy_Defense/DPS. DPS can be 5 trillion trillion and it can still take an hour to kill enemies because the enemies have 18000 trillion trillion defense. DE should know this.

And, a lot of these top DPS weapons that were destroyed were created before trading and daily reward plat when people had to buy boo$$$ters with plat bought with money. And even if you can get plat in game now. It takes a lot of time, so people spend money to save themselves the time and pay to play the way they want. So, when top tier stuff gets nerfed to shit or meh, you are pushing them to spend more plat to play how they want or get pissed off and play another game and never spend money on DE again. Just because you can farm forever doesn't mean other people can and they deserve, as paying customers who had to put up with the real world to make real money to buy plat, that their stuff is respected because you may be able to farm plat forever but DE needs to farm real money, not plat. Without real money, there is no plat. So, DE should avoid pissing off people who pay real money or they're going to get stuck with nothing but plat and you can't buy real shit with plat.

You don't seem to understand that all these freebies are there to get people to spend money on the things you can't get free or don't have the patience or time to get free. It's not charity. IT's a business model. Without those people there is no Warframe. However, no one needs gold farmers.
Doforcash 16th Aug 2014

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(ohh boy, here we go again...)

aren't you mother ever tell you to "never listen to stranger" when you are small? Of course she has, so is DE parent. I mean if a...let's say, a wear dude in a black suit, said with a squeaky, spooky voice "hey kid, want some free candy ?". So if there are such theart, i don't think DE will. Plus if we giving DE feedback threat, it isn't "commanding threat", it's a "suggestion threat", totally different.

"was there any reason to nerf acrid into s**tsville? How about Galatine?" why yes there's, to balance these weapon with other junky weapon. Yes i dare said it, all of Warframe weapon are junky, and can only use to kill lv5-10 enemy type. And that's when mod come in. ALL HAIL THE MOD GOOD.

and about all those high-school-related and me-being-judging-other-people-language.
you never watch this gameshow, haven't you ? (lol i can't stop giggle when watching this XD)
https://www.youtube.com/r ... r+than+a+5th+grader+

yes, i do agree it's took a freaking long time to kill someone that his power rating IS OVER 9000. So you got a choice, Either try to use 4 of your Frame ability, or call your friend to leand you a hand(and gun n blade). *cough BansheeandNovadambuff cough*

and yes, i'm not a P2W player, so beside saying that "F2P sound like a good deal to most of player on the Earth"...i'm just gonna keep silence from here

gooday sir :>


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Oh look I found free forma......

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i founded a fully mod weapon


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Quote(ohh boy, here we go again...)

aren't you mother ever tell you to "never listen to stranger" when you are small? Of course she has, so is DE parent. I mean if a...let's say, a wear dude in a black suit, said with a squeaky, spooky voice "hey kid, want some free candy ?". So if there are such theart, i don't think DE will. Plus if we giving DE feedback threat, it isn't "commanding threat", it's a "suggestion threat", totally different.

"was there any reason to nerf acrid into s**tsville? How about Galatine?" why yes there's, to balance these weapon with other junky weapon. Yes i dare said it, all of Warframe weapon are junky, and can only use to kill lv5-10 enemy type. And that's when mod come in. ALL HAIL THE MOD GOOD.

and about all those high-school-related and me-being-judging-other-people-language.
you never watch this gameshow, haven't you ? (lol i can't stop giggle when watching this XD)
https://www.youtube.com/r ... r+than+a+5th+grader+

yes, i do agree it's took a freaking long time to kill someone that his power rating IS OVER 9000. So you got a choice, Either try to use 4 of your Frame ability, or call your friend to leand you a hand(and gun n blade). *cough BansheeandNovadambuff cough*

and yes, i'm not a P2W player, so beside saying that "F2P sound like a good deal to most of player on the Earth"...i'm just gonna keep silence from here

gooday sir :>

...

TLDR:  Bacon.
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Quotei founded a fully mod weapon

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It's true, bacon is getting nerfed next week.
Doforcash 17th Aug 2014

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welp, then i hereby conclude this case is solve, thank you for participant, gentlemen.


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ThePresident777 17th Aug 2014

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Oh, this case was solved many posts ago. Once again, I present the evidence, exhibit F, forma found in the victim's residence:
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Legend 17th Aug 2014

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not sure if i can be bothered/should edit out everything inappropriate... (the whole post...)


Round and round the wheel of life goes... where it stops nobody knows... but theres one thing i do know... and it's that i'll be happy where ever i go...

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I don't like censorship but I was going to, decided to go in game find him and ask him to self-moderate but he wasn't there, then I got sidetracked. Not really the tirade we need here.


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ThePresident777 17th Aug 2014

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So far, no one has refuted a single point with any valid points. All we've got is White Knighting and trolling and crotch fantasies. But, whatever. I can have fun too.

Forma is bacon, exhibit A:

(Still waiting for a picture that can top that^^.)

The need to nerf is entirely debatable.. And, if a nerf was in order there was no need to nerf anything into a lower tier, which is what DE did with Acrid and Galatine.

It's actually counter productive because paying customers are what keeps this game alive, not free players. You can talk about F2P all you want but DE doesn't play free to develop. They don't want plat. They want money and free players don't pay DE any money at all.

Can you face the facts or is diversionary BS all you have?
Doforcash 17th Aug 2014

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*sniff sniff*
My bacon scene is telling me someone is in need to be reply ?

ok...1st thing 1st

(top the picture, check)

well, let have a perspective in the big number of player in the past, shall we ?
in case you dunno, Galatine and Arcid is not 1 of the weapon in the Alpha release (the Warframe version before Beta Warframe). And apparently they accidentally make them become too OP. Despise the 2 become the top-choice for all Tenno, a large number of Raging, swearing, annoying and trolling threat come after that. Most of them are "Gala too OP, DE wth ?" "Arcid is too OP, do u want all of us to use this ?", "what about the other weapon, DE ?", and the most common of all "there's only 1 way to balance this game...NERF THESE 2, OR BUFF THE REST". (De choose the way that will please most of the player, which is nerf these, and buff some of the other weapon)

while i do agree the obviousness, only Paying player are capable of keeping this game alive. But you can't just press on Paying player to stay alive in a F2P game. DE strategy is to cherish both paying player and F2P player, why ?
Because both type of player can telling they friend that "hey dude, this game has a good gameplay and a decent payment, you should try it out bro" and who know...maybe F2P player never gonna give DE any money, but maybe his friend will.
after that, maybe his Friend will show this game to someone else, and that someone else gonna share this to another someone else...and so on and so on.
and this is how Warframe achivement the ZAM 2013 Action Game of the Year, IncGamers 2013 Reader's Awards - Best Free to Play and mmobomb.com ultimate free-2-play showdown. All in 2013 (bonuse fact: IT's also now a Most popular game on Steam).


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QuoteSo far, no one has refuted a single point with any valid points.  All we've got is White Knighting and trolling and crotch fantasies.  But, whatever.  I can have fun too.
small P.s
if you want this to be a serious issues, don't put it here, put it at the Warframe Forum itself (you might wanna check your swearing a bit).
you put a TLDR logo on my serious reply, and then you declare that everyone think this is a joke ?

yeee... i guess i myself can't make your threat become serious (Troll Shark, lol). But how about the fact that you just drive your own post gone far far away from it original meaning ?

i put this on spoiler cause i'm not sure will you understand what i'am saying here, so you are welcome to ignore this


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Serious discussion on the warframe forums .... BWHAHAHAHAHHAHAHA........ DOFOR STOP MY RIBS ARE CRACKING MERCY BWAHAHAHAHAHAHA
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my quest for bringing joy to all Children had been complete, i shall go now *whoosp*


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Go to jail.
Go directly to jail.
Do not pass Pedobear.
Do not collect 200 Bacon.
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And first we bring you this public service announcement from our sponsors:


How is alpha release relevant?  It is the furthest release from the direction which DE or players wanted to pursue.  It is far far from feature complete.  It's nothing that anyone would be proud of.  It had zero commercial viability.  It's bug ridden.  It was just a sickly fetus.

One of my points is that DE should have known better than to make such mistakes because they are far from professional mistakes, and they did not make a mistake.  They did it on purpose.  DE chose to make weapons tiers.  That was not a mistake.  It's part of the leveling system.  Everything has tiers in a leveling system.

Not only did they decide to make weapon tiers but they decided to continue to make 400+ DPS weapons after they nerfed 440 DPS acrid to less than 100 DPS.

Then, they did the same thing again with Galatine.

And, they have the potential to do the same thing again with Boltor Prime and Boar Prime and more weapons and more content.

Point number two is that it is unjustified to nerf a weapon to below it's weapon tier.  The weapon tier is going to continue to exist so there is no productivity gained at all from nerfing the shit out of anything.  The shit tiers are full of weapons of all kinds.  And, top weapons are what a sizable portion of the people who make DE profitable spend money on.  Top weapons are a top money maker.  Their purchasers don't appreciate having their purchases made totally worthless.  If they wanted to spend money on shit grade weapons, they had massive opportunities to do so and would have.  But, they didn't.  Nerfing the fuck out of their purchase is a failed business practice.  Doing so goes against successful basic customer and business practice.  Pissing customers off does not promote balance.

Rich and poor don't have very similar expectations in terms of spending money.  Paying customers are going to tell other paying customers, "this is where you want to spend your money".  And, they'll listen to each other because they have similar expectations.  Free players are going to tell other free players, "this is where you can play for free".  Free players can be replaced with AI squadies and AI auction house.  Paying customers cannot be replaced with AI anything.  It is unwise to negate their purchases especially if they don't have much money to spend.  They can't simply write off the loss with another purchase but they can cut their losses and play for free.  Let's not forget that Warframe's business model is predicated on micro transactions, not huge purchases.  You don't want to piss off the horde of small purchases because they will not be their to spend in the future.  Plat purchases keep trading alive.  No plat purchase, no trading.  Without trading DE has to do something about the grind otherwise people will not want to spend money.  We see that all DE has done about grind is increase it directly to fuel trading which fuels plat purchases which fuels trading which ..... keeps free players interested in playing.  So, if you want to continue to play for free, don't tell DE that it's alright to nerf the shit out of anything and everything and don't be a wise ass to customers when they complain about DE ruining their reason to spend money.
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